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Worms

Postby minnie » Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:46 am

One of the best pieces of advice I was given was before drenching (and especially after moving to a new property) to have the cattle (herd) analysed for any or type of worms.

The LHPA provide a kit for taking the samples and you send them off and within a couple of days you get emailed the test results. Costs for the lab are paid by you but they help with the results and advice. We did a basic worm and most expensive liver fluke.

I've been really concerned that our herd would have liver fluke after such a wet season, on land with gullies and wet spots that they've had feed and water out of, and three of the cows are still in really poor condition.

Well yesterday I got the results and intend ringing the LHPA vet to discuss this morning.

Our results were 0 for worm and liver fluke but they have 'stomach fluke', I hadn't heard of stomach fluke but on reading about it, usually it doesn't cause a problem as they build an immunity to them, but if they get overloaded it's a problem.

I have to say the money spent is well worth knowing exactly what we're dealing with and it will be interesting what the vet can tell me.
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Vicki

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Re: Worms

Postby tampeirce » Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:13 am

Hi Vicki,
Who or what is LHPA and how much did it cost ? Was it blood samples ?
Sounds a good idea .
Cheers Tam

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Re: Worms

Postby minnie » Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:49 am

Hi Tam,

The LHPA is the old DPI etc...

We did poo samples, they say blood is better and they'll come out to take the blood samples for free as part of the yearly fees they charge. But the lab work you pay for.

I took 10 samples from cows, the kit had the bottles etc. And we did the cheap over all worms (so do they have worms) about $35 and the expensive liver fluke, because that was my concern, about $70 something from memory, we haven't got the bill yet.

I spoke to the vet, the stomach fluke is nothing apparently as it's this area and the count isn't anything out of the norm, so they have no worm or fluke. It's been a good way at not over drenching the cattle, so we'll do it at least once per year before drenching to see what we have to deal with, rather than treat blindly. It makes me wonder at all the people telling me how much liver fluke they've had this year, wether it was in fact fluke or just worms or something else. Our place has wet gullies, and soggy spots that are notorious for fluke and it was as wet as with all the flooding and rain, so I'm amazed and happy that they're okay.
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Vicki

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Re: Worms

Postby dggoatlover » Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:59 am

Thats great! I have a couple of does that aren't performing very well and we have done worm testing but no issues there. We are now having soil tests done to check for mineral deficiences. I do already supplement my girls with minerals but in some of them it may not be enough.

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Re: Worms

Postby Heidi » Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:05 pm

I too was concerned with liver fluke, however, when I enquired at a recent Norco open day, the Cydectin (I think) rep explained that just because the property is wet or swampy doesn't mean liver fluke is there. A particular type of snail needs to be in residence which is the host of the liver fluke at a certain stage in its life cycle.

I think I'll ring the LHPA and get some feacal egg counts done too.

Thanks for the info,
Heidi

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Re: Worms

Postby minnie » Sat Oct 01, 2011 8:24 am

Hi Heidi,

What's been a thought provoking thing for us is the people we know with large herds who drench 'a lot' and never think of doing a test... the test is cheaper than the drench if you have a large herd.

Overtime as well many of the drenches are becoming ineffective because of overuse as well so it's good to know what you're dealing with before you deal with something. ;)

I've been beside myself over liver fluke as it looks flukey country and had a cow die once with it... so now I can know it's not that and my three that are putting on weight need some good high protein hand feed which they'll get as soon as DH does the yard for the next weaners.

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Vicki


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